
Joe Public
The Dirty Rotten Scoundrels
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Posted - 2009.02.24 15:23:00 -
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Originally by: Nur AlHuda Faction warfare can attract only people who want to pew pew, but for general eve public it wlll remain distant.
Eh? It's a PvP arena, why would you even try to attract people other than those that want to pew pew? Carebear land is thataway ->
Now in 0.0 it's a different matter as you have a use for carebears there.
Originally by: Nur AlHuda Just look at size of the militia members online and average participation in fleet operations. More then 50% never participate couse they consider it not important for them and they are only in militia couse they corp buddies are there. So it then it looks like only one corp would run operations even when in the fleet are people maybe from 10 different corporations.
I think it's unfair and inaccurate to use the general militia and the lower quality corps involved in FW to criticise the whole of FW. Serious PvP corps in FW are 100% behind FW and have 100% attendance to fleets, like mine. There will always be a lot of chaff pilots and half-involved corps in FW and I would not want it to be any different, but there are also plenty of pilots and corps that set the bar much higher.
Originally by: Nur AlHuda Also people dont do nearly plexing at all or only as their corp ops. Average combat ops ends at the gate and thats all. Rarely in complex couse of the rats.
Now this is closer to my experience. My corp and I do most of our hunting at gates, but we do do plenty of plex, celestial and safespot work too. It is well supported that some of the plex mechanics need a little touch up and bug fix to improve this.
Originally by: Nur AlHuda Thats the difference in 0.0 you get bonuses from soveregnity and you cna see direct impact on your alliance. In missions in empire you have the loot but in factional warfare your actions doesnt make difference and its just for pvp.
It is just for PvP, but it makes a difference to the amount of fun you have, the amount of kills you get, the amount of experience you gain and the level of your reputation. There is an awful lot that just PvPing all the time gets you in EVE and it is only carebears and 0.0 die hards, that are unwilling to give up their territorial ambitions and the horrors of POS bashing they require, that fail to see that... probably because their perspective is overly coloured by their own preferences.
Originally by: Nur AlHuda So basicaly any pvp or pirate corp can offer the same if not more then the actual factional warfare.
Good ones can, bad ones cannot.
What is more, a PvP and Pirate corp such as mine is capable of enjoying all types of warfare outside FW will still being in and enjoying FW itself. We still do hi-sec wars, we still knock down POSes on rare occasion, we participated in the alliance tournament, we carry out plenty of low-sec piracy, and we roam in 0.0 to annoy our neighbours (my corp have an interesting, if hostile, relationship with CVA and friends). It need not be either/or, it can extend your experience rather than restrict it. You just have to accept that you can't be in an alliance, which is a good thing from my point of view.
Originally by: Nur AlHuda And factional warfare wil stay as introduction to newbies to pvp
It's an excellent introduction to PvP and this is definately something that FW can be proud of, but that is by no means the limit to what FW has to offer.
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